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sophist-第8章

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  Theaet。 Of course。

  Str。 Does false opinion think that things which are not are not;

or that in a certain sense they are?

  Theaet。 Things that are not must be imagined to exist in a certain

sense; if any degree of falsehood is to be possible。

  Str。 And does not false opinion also think that things which most

certainly exist do not exist at all?

  Theaet。 Yes。

  Str。 And here; again; is falsehood?

  Theaet。 Falsehood…yes。

  Str。 And in like manner; a false proposition will be deemed to be

one which are; the nonexistence of things which are; and the 

existence

of things which are not。

  Theaet。 There is no other way in which a false proposition can

arise。

  Str。 There is not; but the Sophist will deny these statements。 And

indeed how can any rational man assent to them; when the very

expressions which we have just used were before acknowledged by us

to be unutterable; unspeakable; indescribable; unthinkable? 

Do you see

his point; Theaetetus?

  Theaet。 Of course he will say that we are contradicting ourselves

when we hazard the assertion; that falsehood exists in opinion and

in words; for in maintaining this; we are compelled over and over

again to assert being of not…being; which we admitted just now to be

an utter impossibility。

  Str。 How well you remember! And now it is high time to hold a

consultation as to what we ought to do about the Sophist; for if we

persist in looking for him in the class of false workers and

magicians; you see that the handles for objection and the 

difficulties

which will arise are very numerous and obvious。

  Theaet。 They are indeed。

  Str。 We have gone through but a very small portion of 

them; and they

are really infinite。

  Theaet。 If that is the case; we cannot possibly catch the Sophist。

  Str。 Shall we then be so faint…hearted as to give him up?

  Theaet。 Certainly not; I should say; if we can get the slightest

hold upon him。

  Str。 Will you then forgive me; and; as your words imply; not be

altogether displeased if I flinch a little from the grasp of such a

sturdy argument?

  Theaet。 To be sure I will。

  Str。 I have a yet more urgent request to make。

  Theaet。 Which is…?

  Str。 That you will promise not to regard me as a parricide。

  Theaet。 And why?

  Str。 Because; in self…defence; I must test the philosophy of my

father Parmenides; and try to prove by main force; that in a certain

sense not…being is; and that being; on the other hand; is not。

  Theaet。 Some attempt of the kind is clearly needed。

  Str。 Yes; a blind man; as they say; might see that; and; unless

these questions are decided in one way or another; no one when he

speaks false words; or false opinion; or idols; or images or

imitations or appearances; or about the arts which are concerned

with them; can avoid falling into ridiculous contradictions。

  Theaet。 Most true。

  Str。 And therefore I must venture to lay hands on my father's

argument; for if I am to be over…scrupulous; I shall have to give

the matter up。

  Theaet。 Nothing in the world should ever induce us to do so。

  Str。 I have a third little request which I wish to make。

  Theaet。 What is it?

  Str。 You heard me…say what…I have always felt and still feel…that

I have no heart for this argument?

  Theaet。 I did。

  Str。 I tremble at the thought of what I have said; and expect that

you will deem me mad; when you hear of my sudden changes and

shiftings; let me therefore observe; that I am examining the

question entirely out of regard for you。

  Theaet。 There is no reason for you to fear that I shall impute any

impropriety to you; if you attempt this refutation and proof; take

heart; therefore; and proceed。

  Str。 And where shall I begin the perilous enterprise? I think that

the road which I must take is…

  Theaet。 Which?…Let me hear。

  Str。 I think that we had better; first of all; consider the points

which at present are regard as self…evident; lest we may have fallen

into some confusion; and be too ready to assent to one another;

fancying that we are quite clear about them。

  Theaet。 Say more distinctly what you mean。

  Str。 I think that Parmenides; and all ever yet undertook to

determine the number and nature of existences; talked to us in

rather a light and easy strain。

  Theaet。 How?

  Str。 As if we had been children; to whom they repeated each his

own mythus or story;…one said that there were three principles; and

that at one time there was war between certain of them; and 

then again

there was peace; and they were married and begat children; 

and brought

them up; and another spoke of two principles;…a moist and a dry; or

a hot and a cold; and made them marry and cohabit。 The Eleatics;

however; in our part of the world; say that things are many in name;

but in nature one; this is their mythus; which goes back to

Xenophanes; and is even older。 Then there are Ionian; and in more

recent times Sicilian muses; who have arrived at the conclusion that

to unite the two principles is safer; and to say that being 

is one and

many; and that these are held together by enmity and friendship;

ever parting; ever meeting; as the…severer Muses assert; while the

gentler ones do not insist on the perpetual strife and peace; but

admit a relaxation and alternation of them; peace and unity

sometimes prevailing under the sway of Aphrodite; and then again

plurality and war; by reason of a principle of strife。 Whether any

of them spoke the truth in all this is hard to determine; besides;

antiquity and famous men should have reverence; and not be liable to

accusations; so serious; Yet one thing may be said of them without

offence…

  Theaet。 What thing?

  Str。 That they went on their several ways disdaining to notice

people like ourselves; they did not care whether they took us with

them; or left us behind them。

  Theaet。 How do you mean?

  Str。 I mean to say; that when they talk of one; two; or more

elements; which are or have become or are becoming; or again of heat

mingling with cold; assuming in some other part of their works

separations and mixtures;…tell me; Theaetetus; do you understand

what they mean by these expressions? When I was a younger man; I

used to fancy that I understood quite well what was meant by the

term 〃not…being;〃 which is our present subject of dispute; 

and now you

see in what a fix we are about it。

  Theaet。 I see。

  Str。 And very likely we have been getting into the same perplexity

about 〃being;〃 and yet may fancy that when anybody utters 

the word; we

understand him quite easily; although we do not know about

not…being。 But we may be; equally ignorant of both。

  Theaet。 I dare say。

  Str。 And the same may be said of all the terms just mentioned。

  Theaet。 True。

  Str。 The consideration of most of them may be deferred; but we had

better now discuss the chief captain and leader of them。

  Theaet。 Of what are you speaking? You clearly think that we must

first investigate what people mean by the word 〃being。〃

  Str。 You follow close at heels; Theaetetus。 For the right method;

I conceive; will be to call into our presence the dualistic

philosophers and to interrogate them。 〃Come;〃 we will say; 〃Ye; who

affirm that hot and cold or any other two principles are the 

universe;

what is this term which you apply to both of them; and what do you

mean when you say that both and each of them 'are'? How are we to

understand the word 'are'? Upon your view; are we to suppose that

there is a third principle over and above the other two…three in

all; and not two? For clearly you cannot say that one of the two

principles is being; and yet attribute being equally to both of

them; for; if you did; whichever of the two is identified with

being; will comprehend the other; and so they will be one and not

two。〃

  Theaet。 Very true。

  Str。 But perhaps you mean to give the name of 〃being〃 to both of

them together?

  Theaet。 Quite likely。

  Str。 〃Then; friends;〃 we shall reply to them; 〃the answer 

is plainly

that the two will still be resolved into one。〃

  Theaet。 Most true。

  Str。 〃
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